Jamael Westman says that “Wakanda forever” is part of what he says when parting from friends now – “It becomes a state of mind” – and talks about why he likes playwriting podcasts: “Amazing playwrights like these can feel unreachable. You can’t imagine them as normal people because all you see is their name in shiny lights under an amazing play. But this humanises them – it’s like chilling in a writer’s room.”